Bugs and Suggestions

Zeno · 09-08-2008, 10:51 PM

So what exactly causes this? It's a bit strange for a forum software to generate a message like this...

Downtime is annoying, but at least it isn't as bad as Mudrage.

Fizban · 09-08-2008, 11:32 PM

At least MudRage's is simply caused by Kyndig closing the site intentionally when updating it usually.

Lasher · 09-08-2008, 11:34 PM

When are you actually seeing this? There's a period around 4am server time when the daily backup is done and the google/yahoo sitemap files are rebuilt that things lag. Other than that, unless someone is spamming us we should never see this. The site is on a fairly decent sized dedicated server with nothing else running here...

Zeno · 09-08-2008, 11:43 PM

Fizban: I can't even resolve the site, wouldn't it make more sense to have something like a text message saying "Currently updating" or something.

Lasher: Happened 10min before I made this topic.

Lasher · 09-09-2008, 12:03 AM

Thanks, did you just get it one time, or was it persistent for a while?

A quick google shows it is something vbulletin does when the load average on the server goes beyond a certain point. It's set to 5 and right now the load average on the server is - load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.05.

Not sure what would have caused that sudden spike but will keep a look out for it. The server log shows a particularly high level of spam/open relay attempts at from 10:50 - 11:02 .. maybe that was it.

Zeno · 09-09-2008, 12:13 AM

I don't know when it started, but it lasted for at least 10min.

ScourgeX · 09-09-2008, 04:42 PM

Anyone know what's going on with Mudrage? Been down for a day now

Zeno · 09-09-2008, 11:28 PM

It's back up.

And will be shutting down in 30min.

Fizban · 09-10-2008, 02:27 AM

You forgot the permanently part. Except it's after the fact now.

MudRage has shut its doors, permanently.

chaosprime · 09-11-2008, 12:06 PM

Zeno · 09-25-2008, 01:39 PM

So once again the site had "The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.", as well as what seems to be site downtime beforehand.

Lasher · 09-25-2008, 01:53 PM

Yeah we had some load average issues caused by spam again. Only using one email address on this server period, think I'll just find a good third party provider. Any recommendations?

Lasher · 12-21-2008, 09:52 AM

I was very skeptical of the "Gmail for business" suite, but after moving to it a couple of months ago it handles spam better than any other app I've tried. This "server too busy" stuff was caused at times by so much spam hitting the server all at once, so shouldn't happen again.

We did have a SQL error a couple of nights ago - it was caused by a cpanel upgrade breaking the "InnoDB" settings. As we don't use InnoDB anyway it was a quick fix.

Orrin · 12-21-2008, 10:46 AM

I'll second the vote for gmail. I only get a relatively small amount of spam, no more than 30 or so messages a day, but I've never had a single one get past the gmail filter.

09-08-2008, 10:51 PM	#1
Zeno Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saratoga, NY Home MUD: Bleached InuYasha Galaxy Posts: 189	"The server is too busy" So what exactly causes this? It's a bit strange for a forum software to generate a message like this... Downtime is annoying, but at least it isn't as bad as Mudrage.

09-08-2008, 11:32 PM	#2
Fizban Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Name: Brandon Location: Shelby Township, Michigan Home MUD: The Builder Academy Home MUD: 4 Dimensions Posts: 144	Re: "The server is too busy" At least MudRage's is simply caused by Kyndig closing the site intentionally when updating it usually.

09-08-2008, 11:34 PM	#3
Lasher Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Name: Derek Location: Orlando Posts: 357	Re: "The server is too busy" When are you actually seeing this? There's a period around 4am server time when the daily backup is done and the google/yahoo sitemap files are rebuilt that things lag. Other than that, unless someone is spamming us we should never see this. The site is on a fairly decent sized dedicated server with nothing else running here...

09-08-2008, 11:43 PM	#4
Zeno Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saratoga, NY Home MUD: Bleached InuYasha Galaxy Posts: 189	Re: "The server is too busy" Fizban: I can't even resolve the site, wouldn't it make more sense to have something like a text message saying "Currently updating" or something. Lasher: Happened 10min before I made this topic.

09-09-2008, 12:03 AM	#5
Lasher Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Name: Derek Location: Orlando Posts: 357	Re: "The server is too busy" Thanks, did you just get it one time, or was it persistent for a while? A quick google shows it is something vbulletin does when the load average on the server goes beyond a certain point. It's set to 5 and right now the load average on the server is - load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.05. Not sure what would have caused that sudden spike but will keep a look out for it. The server log shows a particularly high level of spam/open relay attempts at from 10:50 - 11:02 .. maybe that was it.

09-09-2008, 12:13 AM	#6
Zeno Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saratoga, NY Home MUD: Bleached InuYasha Galaxy Posts: 189	Re: "The server is too busy" I don't know when it started, but it lasted for at least 10min.

09-09-2008, 04:42 PM	#7
ScourgeX Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Midwest Home MUD: Scourge of Time Posts: 89	Re: "The server is too busy" Anyone know what's going on with Mudrage? Been down for a day now

09-09-2008, 11:28 PM	#8
Zeno Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saratoga, NY Home MUD: Bleached InuYasha Galaxy Posts: 189	Re: "The server is too busy" It's back up. And will be shutting down in 30min.

09-10-2008, 02:27 AM	#9
Fizban Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Name: Brandon Location: Shelby Township, Michigan Home MUD: The Builder Academy Home MUD: 4 Dimensions Posts: 144	Re: "The server is too busy" You forgot the permanently part. Except it's after the fact now. MudRage has shut its doors, permanently.

09-11-2008, 12:06 PM	#10
chaosprime Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Home MUD: Lost Souls Posts: 199	Re: "The server is too busy"

09-25-2008, 01:39 PM	#11
Zeno Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saratoga, NY Home MUD: Bleached InuYasha Galaxy Posts: 189	Re: "The server is too busy" So once again the site had "The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.", as well as what seems to be site downtime beforehand. Last edited by Zeno : 09-25-2008 at 02:01 PM.

09-25-2008, 01:53 PM	#12
Lasher Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Name: Derek Location: Orlando Posts: 357	Re: "The server is too busy" Yeah we had some load average issues caused by spam again. Only using one email address on this server period, think I'll just find a good third party provider. Any recommendations?

12-21-2008, 09:52 AM	#13
Lasher Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Name: Derek Location: Orlando Posts: 357	Re: "The server is too busy" I was very skeptical of the "Gmail for business" suite, but after moving to it a couple of months ago it handles spam better than any other app I've tried. This "server too busy" stuff was caused at times by so much spam hitting the server all at once, so shouldn't happen again. We did have a SQL error a couple of nights ago - it was caused by a cpanel upgrade breaking the "InnoDB" settings. As we don't use InnoDB anyway it was a quick fix.

12-21-2008, 10:46 AM	#14
Orrin Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Name: Matt Posts: 141	Re: "The server is too busy" I'll second the vote for gmail. I only get a relatively small amount of spam, no more than 30 or so messages a day, but I've never had a single one get past the gmail filter.

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