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Hadoryu · 09-30-2007, 09:58 AM

I'm not sure why the mood suddenly struck me to reply, I've been looking at this thread for a long while. Instead of taking a side, because honestly that'd be rather fruitless, I'm going to try to rationalize why the disagreement exists here, and I won't use words like 'selfish', 'for the good of the MUD playerbase' et cetera.

This is pretty much the point of contention here, I believe. As KaVir says, an oversimplified model will consist of categories broad enough that they're: 1) not helpful, 2) unfair to the categorized MUDs. It's not really fair to categorize a MUD that requires a subscription fee with one that accepts donations or sells t-shirts. It will cost the latter searches that would have potentially brought in new players. A number of people will simply avoid searching in the category, not because they care that you can buy t-shirts in one MUD, but because they want to narrow their search in a way that excludes MUDs that require subscription.

Now, in very much the same vein, 'donations/payment has an effect in game' is going to categorize MUDs that offer restrings for payment with MUDs that sell the 'slay' command. It's not fair to categorize all of those MUDs together in a way that tends to completely ignore the actual impact of the distinction on gameplay. I believe those arguing against the implementation of this are simply concerned their MUD isn't going to get fair consideration and is going to be discarded off-hand by a number of potential players that will simply not click that checkbox because: 1) they have a preconception about what kind of rewards paymend would provide and have a dislike for the particular practice, 2) they want to narrow down their search and simply ignore the category because they know it contains a number of models they'll never try.

I hope the MUD admins in this thread can have the respect for each other to avoid questioning each others' motivation for their stated opinions in such a way as to imply it being self-serving and detrimental to MUDing in general. Every one of you wants what is best for their game, I'm sure.

09-30-2007, 09:58 AM	#542
Hadoryu Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 102	Re: The Non-Cold Non-Hard Non-Facts I'm not sure why the mood suddenly struck me to reply, I've been looking at this thread for a long while. Instead of taking a side, because honestly that'd be rather fruitless, I'm going to try to rationalize why the disagreement exists here, and I won't use words like 'selfish', 'for the good of the MUD playerbase' et cetera. This is pretty much the point of contention here, I believe. As KaVir says, an oversimplified model will consist of categories broad enough that they're: 1) not helpful, 2) unfair to the categorized MUDs. It's not really fair to categorize a MUD that requires a subscription fee with one that accepts donations or sells t-shirts. It will cost the latter searches that would have potentially brought in new players. A number of people will simply avoid searching in the category, not because they care that you can buy t-shirts in one MUD, but because they want to narrow their search in a way that excludes MUDs that require subscription. Now, in very much the same vein, 'donations/payment has an effect in game' is going to categorize MUDs that offer restrings for payment with MUDs that sell the 'slay' command. It's not fair to categorize all of those MUDs together in a way that tends to completely ignore the actual impact of the distinction on gameplay. I believe those arguing against the implementation of this are simply concerned their MUD isn't going to get fair consideration and is going to be discarded off-hand by a number of potential players that will simply not click that checkbox because: 1) they have a preconception about what kind of rewards paymend would provide and have a dislike for the particular practice, 2) they want to narrow down their search and simply ignore the category because they know it contains a number of models they'll never try. I hope the MUD admins in this thread can have the respect for each other to avoid questioning each others' motivation for their stated opinions in such a way as to imply it being self-serving and detrimental to MUDing in general. Every one of you wants what is best for their game, I'm sure.