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Old 02-23-2005, 03:51 PM   #24
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Well, no, I'm not. Kavir is always going on and on about "the license." I'm just suggesting we actually get an expert opinion, though I realize that may threaten his dogma.

What Kavir wants is for people to do things that are not, I believe, covered by the license. That's fine, and it's certainly his perogative to request whatever he wants. He could request everyone mails him a ham sandwich because he believes that should be covered by the DIKU license, but I'm interested in the actual license, not what Kavir wants the license to say, or even what the DIKU guys now say they want the license to say.

As has been pointed out many times, a license is a contract, and unless that contract has a provision in it for retroactive, unilateral changes by one or the other party, those changes cannot be made.

Again, I understand that some people want things enforced that may or may not be in the license, but what's the harm in getting an expert opinion on the license? Neither Kavir nor I nor anyone else I've heard weigh in on the matter are experts in IP law. Wouldn't it be nice to actually have that information and THEN decide rather than sticking our proverbial heads in the ground and ignoring the opinions of people who are actually qualified to comment on how a court would likely (can't be sure without actually going to court, of course) interpret it? I mean, if you wanted to know if a certain kind of building could be built without it tipping over, you wouldn't ask a bunch of random forum members. You'd ask an architect who specializes in that kind of building.

Kavir and whoever else would still be free to complain that people aren't following what they think the DIKU team wanted when the license was written, or what they think the DIKU team wants now.

I just fail to see why there's any hesitation over consulting an expert on any issue, unless it's the cost, and Kavir claims to be quite interested in protecting the rights of mud creators. So, let's find out what those rights actually are vis a vis DIKU. That's all I'm saying.
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