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Jazuela · 10-01-2003, 02:08 PM

Ya know Molly, your post is rife with insults against the player community, and I tend to take that sort of thing personally, since I'm a player.

I'm a quality player, involved in a quality game. I came from the pay-to-play world (the legitimate one, not the code-stealing one), and I take issue with your snide remarks, no matter how well-intended, in comparing twink muds to pay for play.

In GemStoneIII, you can - and do - get in-game benefits for real life money. The more you pay, the more you get. Most of the things you get have no affect on "levelling up" or advancement, and the things you can, that do, are usually just a greater opportunity to win something spiffy and uber powerful at an in-game auction. You can't attend certain auctions or merchant shops unless you're a "premium" subscriber, which costs extra. They even give you incentives to BACK-pay 6 months worth to allow you the privilege of attending these things.

GSIII caters to the masses, and they do a damned good job of it. Achaea does a great job with it as well, but the difference is, and I"ll repeat what everyone else has been trying to say here:

ANYTHING YOU AQUIRE IN ACHAEA FOR CASH CAN ALSO BE ACQUIRED FOR FREE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE TIME TO SPEND ACQUIRING IT.

Further, nothing that Achaea provides for cash allows a character to advance automatically, or become powerful automatically. You cannot buy a nobility title with cash. You cannot buy your way out of a fight with someone stronger than you with cash. All of that has to be done in-game, and no matter how much real life cash you sink into it, it won't mean diddly if the guy you **** off is bigger than you.

I don't even play Achaea, nor do I have any interest in it, and never did. But this railing against pay-to-play games that are working legitimately, and successfully, only contributes to furthering the gap between the community and itself.

As for the Rapture engine, I think it's awesome that the company has developed it and is offering it to whoever's willing to pay for it. Beats the heck out of code-stealers clutching open source and claiming it as their own. It also encourages other code creators and engine-owners to watch the trends, to see if this could be an option for them. Obviously people who write code are extremely possessive, and with good reason. This is merely another option, and I applaud its creators for offering it.

10-01-2003, 02:08 PM	#64
Jazuela Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New England Posts: 849	Ya know Molly, your post is rife with insults against the player community, and I tend to take that sort of thing personally, since I'm a player. I'm a quality player, involved in a quality game. I came from the pay-to-play world (the legitimate one, not the code-stealing one), and I take issue with your snide remarks, no matter how well-intended, in comparing twink muds to pay for play. In GemStoneIII, you can - and do - get in-game benefits for real life money. The more you pay, the more you get. Most of the things you get have no affect on "levelling up" or advancement, and the things you can, that do, are usually just a greater opportunity to win something spiffy and uber powerful at an in-game auction. You can't attend certain auctions or merchant shops unless you're a "premium" subscriber, which costs extra. They even give you incentives to BACK-pay 6 months worth to allow you the privilege of attending these things. GSIII caters to the masses, and they do a damned good job of it. Achaea does a great job with it as well, but the difference is, and I"ll repeat what everyone else has been trying to say here: ANYTHING YOU AQUIRE IN ACHAEA FOR CASH CAN ALSO BE ACQUIRED FOR FREE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE TIME TO SPEND ACQUIRING IT. Further, nothing that Achaea provides for cash allows a character to advance automatically, or become powerful automatically. You cannot buy a nobility title with cash. You cannot buy your way out of a fight with someone stronger than you with cash. All of that has to be done in-game, and no matter how much real life cash you sink into it, it won't mean diddly if the guy you **** off is bigger than you. I don't even play Achaea, nor do I have any interest in it, and never did. But this railing against pay-to-play games that are working legitimately, and successfully, only contributes to furthering the gap between the community and itself. As for the Rapture engine, I think it's awesome that the company has developed it and is offering it to whoever's willing to pay for it. Beats the heck out of code-stealers clutching open source and claiming it as their own. It also encourages other code creators and engine-owners to watch the trends, to see if this could be an option for them. Obviously people who write code are extremely possessive, and with good reason. This is merely another option, and I applaud its creators for offering it.