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Valg · 02-09-2006, 01:11 PM

1) You're completely incorrect about the chemicals. Palmiero's drug of choice was only leaked after he was caught, and led to tougher testing and more widespread knowledge about the drug in question and why it implicated his guilt further. This was important because Palmiero claimed either a false test or accidental exposure to a drug (like a nutritional product)... except stanozolol is used in no legitimate nutritional products, and incredibly reliable tests have existed since before Ben Johnson got caught injecting the same drug. Leaking the drug in question proved to the public that his thin excuses held no water.

The analogy: Materia Magica has claimed innocence repeatedly, but the facts demonstrate deliberate and repeated involvement by their staff. By sharing the facts, the community learns that they were not banned due to a grudge or mistake, but rather because they repeatedly broke the rules.

2) Card counting is not an "inherent talent". That's the dumbest thing I've read in this thread, and not for lack of competition. Most systems are mathematical methods of tracking the deck's general contents. You could teach simple systems to any child old enough to do arithmetic without the use of fingers. (Note: There's nothing illegal in a criminal sense about counting cards, unlike sneaking in loaded dice or otherwise defrauding the casino. The casinos merely take advantage of their right to refuse service to a customer should they choose.)

Analogy: Spreading knowledge of how these systems work and are detected shows that the casinos aren't just kicking out people who win too much. They're kicking out people who attempt to generate an "unfair" (by the casino's standard, at least) advantage in their games, and by doing so they can keep the payoff odds fair for other customers. Publicizing the hows and whys of why Materia Magica got caught deflates their false claims of victimhood by you and your one colleague.

The point of spreading this information is to simply say: Materia Magica was booted for a legitimate reason. Here's the evidence, so you can decide for yourselves.

Me? I won't miss the cheating ****s.

02-09-2006, 01:11 PM	#111
Valg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Home MUD: Carrion Fields Posts: 643	1) You're completely incorrect about the chemicals. Palmiero's drug of choice was only leaked after he was caught, and led to tougher testing and more widespread knowledge about the drug in question and why it implicated his guilt further. This was important because Palmiero claimed either a false test or accidental exposure to a drug (like a nutritional product)... except stanozolol is used in no legitimate nutritional products, and incredibly reliable tests have existed since before Ben Johnson got caught injecting the same drug. Leaking the drug in question proved to the public that his thin excuses held no water. The analogy: Materia Magica has claimed innocence repeatedly, but the facts demonstrate deliberate and repeated involvement by their staff. By sharing the facts, the community learns that they were not banned due to a grudge or mistake, but rather because they repeatedly broke the rules. 2) Card counting is not an "inherent talent". That's the dumbest thing I've read in this thread, and not for lack of competition. Most systems are mathematical methods of tracking the deck's general contents. You could teach simple systems to any child old enough to do arithmetic without the use of fingers. (Note: There's nothing illegal in a criminal sense about counting cards, unlike sneaking in loaded dice or otherwise defrauding the casino. The casinos merely take advantage of their right to refuse service to a customer should they choose.) Analogy: Spreading knowledge of how these systems work and are detected shows that the casinos aren't just kicking out people who win too much. They're kicking out people who attempt to generate an "unfair" (by the casino's standard, at least) advantage in their games, and by doing so they can keep the payoff odds fair for other customers. Publicizing the hows and whys of why Materia Magica got caught deflates their false claims of victimhood by you and your one colleague. The point of spreading this information is to simply say: Materia Magica was booted for a legitimate reason. Here's the evidence, so you can decide for yourselves. Me? I won't miss the cheating ****s.