Could someone possibly explain what's happened, I note that they don't seem to be on the list anymore? Did they get booted or did they withdraw, and if the former, exactly what for (just so others like my site arn't making the same mistake).

Thanks in advance!
Nass

Medievia was still showing the HELP IVOTE prompt to higher level characters by default, and this prompt would automatically turn back on after 30 days after it was turned off. Vryce decided he would rather not be on the list than follow those rules, and stated he would not change the prompt.

Adam

So in other words, they are consistently unethical and were cheating YET AGAIN.  May that be the last time their slime is seen about here.  Once a piece of crap, always a piece of crap.  And that sums up Vryce, his dog, and everyone at Medthievia.

Take care,

Jason

Well I dunno about that prof1515, but, just to brazenly take advantage of the situation to good-humouredly tease Vryce and Soleil a bit, since Vryce promised he'd shut down Medievia if they didn't get into the top five, and now they can't, let's see if Vryce keeps his word!

Cheers for the reply Synozeer, appreciated.

You can't possibly expect pathological liars to keep their word. They'll remain open as long as they can attract insecure children with bank accounts to plop down money to feel like they're not insecure children with bank accounts and so long as noone will or can take any action to stop them from making money through their despicable thievery.

I do second the cheers for Synozeer for booting their/those sorry asses out of here. Way to go!

Take care,

Jason

I'd like to point out to prof1515 that it was Vryce's own playerbase who began the threads against him. And they did it because it was bull and it needed to be stopped before it spread.

My point? Quit bashing the entirety of the playerbase. Quite a few know what's right and what's wrong, and Medievia is losing more players all the time, whether V acknowledges that or not. And you don't want to help ruin your mud's chances of attracting those players, therefore increasing your own base, do you?

Think about what you say before you say it. That's all I have to say.

-mm

This wasn't the first unethical act by Medievia (and I doubt it'll be the last). One wrong's fine but two isn't? The playerbase has to be aware of that and yet they still play. Now, if they're not aware, my apologies to those who aren't and I suggest they look into it. It's not hard to learn all the details of Medievia's disgraceful history (or just read Medievia's own take on it and realize the exact opposite is true).

As for recruiting from Medievia's pbase, I doubt I'll likely appeal to many of them as we're an RPI with a heavy emphasis on socio-cultural RP rather than H&S or even combat-emphasized RP. However, they're all welcome to try the MUD when we open in a few years even if I doubt it'll appeal to the vast majority of them.

Take care,

Jason

Maybe they've forecasted receiving more overall traffic from all the other sites they list at using their new vote system, compared to what they'd get overall if they also complied with topmudsites. It'd be presumptious to assume he's just behaving like a baby, when there are obvious logical conclusions to make here... I'm not taking sides here you understand, I just wished to point out that there is an alternative more reasonable explanation for what they've decided to do. For the record.

Sounds like he was upset that they couldn't cheat and as a result couldn't make it to #1 and realized eventually, when the novelty of voting had worn off (just like it does for many MUDs), their votes would decline and they'd end up getting shown up by the legitimate commercial MUDs.

Can't be #1. Can't cheat to be #1. Take ball and go home.

Sounds like that's what happened.

Take care,

Jason

P.S.--Adam was "man enough" to let them go. Too bad Vryce isn't man enough to admit he's a thief and make amends. As has been said many a time. Good riddance to bad trash.

Vryce is my hero. I was going to retire from medievia completely, but it's so amusing to see what he posts to immortal channel. I wish I were so delusional, would probably help my self esteem, as it seems to have already helped his.

Ok. A rational explanation is now completely out of the question, then. I'll just comment with a "wah wah wah" due to my wasted braincells thinking one up.

There were several explanations over several occasions by the game owners to explain the move (particularly ones by Soleil).

betrayed by gods, as he has had been doing, just once again chose to selectively paste the most controversial sounding immlogs related to this issue as it serves his agenda.

Although obviously Medievia deserved to be kicked off the list and although obviously Vyrce seems like a complete jerk, let's not blame the players. I mean, I think it's horrible of google to censor sites out in China at the behest of the Chinese government, just so they can make more money, but I hardly think it's appropriate to slam everyone who uses Google because of that.

Still, I have to say, Medievia's rampant cheating and refusal to play fair makes me regret ever wasting my time trying to be nice to them. I'm just glad they're gone and that they had to run out with their tail between their proverbial legs, unable to beat MUDs that compete within the rules. Good riddance.
--matt

Would like to point out that Medievia still has banners on topmudsites.com. I assume they paid for the advertsing though, no? And medievia is still listed on topmudsites' mud listing.



Just becuase it had to be pointed out..

Thanks for making that call, Synozeer. Good to see that everyone plays by the same rules here. Bad to see that Vryce is still Vryce.

I see one of the Medithievia fans is doing Vryce's bidding ([Sat Dec 31 227] Vryce(148):: post good reviews of medievia on topmudsites to **** them off) & revived the Medithievia promotions thread.  Geez, I tried their MUD before I found out about their lack of morals, & I can't understand why anyone would want to play on it, 4 classes only & boring as hell.  They are living proof, with every new player, that there is a sucker born every minute.

Well, it's good to know that now nobody will talk about this whole "Medievia" thing anymore...  Oh wait...

But anyways, now that humor is out of the way, my only concern is IRE holding a monopoly on the top two slots.  I hope Aardwolf can hold out like it has so far.  Not that IRE is some sort of "evil empire", I just wouldn't like to see ANY companies' MUDs hold the first and second places.

Um, apparently your posts under another name? (You've got a few more than me with 6 ;p )

Not that it may make much difference to you, but while the IRE games operate with uniform business practices and have to answer to certain quality assurance standards, each is also run as a separate entity insofar as each game’s producer has their own vision and develop their games on separate arcs.

Saying that you’d rather not see two IRE games be in the top slots is rather like saying “The Aviator” and “Finding Neverland” shouldn’t have both been nominated for Best Picture because they were both produced by the same studio--Miramax. Or that “Sim City” and “Ultima Online” shouldn’t be nominated for best game of the year because they are both produced by Electronic Arts.

In other words, I feel I’ve poured a lot of my soul into Lusternia (which I’m sure is a familiar feeling of most other MUD producers) and feel it stands on its own merits irregardless of whether IRE is its parent or not.

Anyway...yeah...just wanted to say that... and that Lusternia is by far the best MUD ever and deserves to be the Number One because...um, well, I say so...

I would venture to guess that they had paid for the rotation before their removal from the site, and therefor will be granted to let the ad-banner run its course.

Do you have to be on the list in order to air banners? Seems like that would be against good business sense.

DonathinFrye, are you aware that your signature file is 17 lines long?

Isn't that a little bit... well... excessive?

I imagine that at some resolutions, your signature is almost an entire page of text.

Someone refresh my memory. Isn't common netiquette 2-4 lines or somewhere around there?

I can't see them being removed for reminding people to vote on their prompt.

As just recently IRE started a new advertising scheme by adding an option to add a function to tell you when you can vote again to your prompt.

But maybe that's just a clever way to get around the rules, I dunno.

You can't POSSIBLY be criticising me for posting off topic.

That is a staggering degree of hypocrisy, considering what you did in the "Concern about the New Voting Rules" thread.

And your signature is still 8 lines long by the way.

Yes, I halved my signature just for you already. You'll have to survive the 8 lines, I do hope it doesn't cause you sleepless nights.

And the entire thread that you mentioned was off-topic at the point I joined, so I can't take responsibility alone in that one. So let's drop the cattiness, and leave anymore bickering off of this particular thread.

Doing a vote prompt is perfectly legal. Medievia was forced off because they weren't giving people a choice as to whether to put it on their prompt or not. They were forcing it on people.

--matt

Kettle: Hi, Pot!

Pot: You're black!

Thresh, Frye, there's no reason to be hostile to each other.  I know each of you're going to say "I'm not being hostile.", but veiled hostility counts too.

Anyways, what's everybody else's opinion on IRE now being that much closer to clinching the first two spots?  Am I the only one who cares?

Achaea having the number one slot makes sense with their playerbase size. Lusternia has a significantly smaller playerbase, so it is very suprising to see them have so many votes. The voting prompt/etc is a rather useful feature for them, it would seem, and while not illegal - I'm not sure I'd want to make players feel like it was their duty to vote by coding in-game reminders for it. But, to each their own, it works for them. Voting is obviously not necessarily reflective of quality, so it does not bother me much who is at the top of the list. I find more interest in MUDs like 'New Worlds', who seem to have a lot more traffic out than traffic in. That particular MUD isn't my style, but I think it says more to see that than to see 124235 votes in.

That is a good point, most of the higher placing MUD's seem to have higher in votes than out votes.  I guess those are the types of playerbases that would allow MUD's to have higher placements on the list.